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some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

honestly, given the reactions that the phrase "OK, Boomer" have been getting in the media, you'd think packs of teens have been systematically targeting elderly people for brutal street muggings or something. but, no... it's just a phrase, and a mild one at that. why is it so upsetting?

because it's not rebellious or confrontational, which are things older people are used to getting from younger people. it's straight-up *dismissive*. and it's not something we, GenX, the first-generation children of the Boomers, ever had the chance to express.

our rebellion was taken away, repackaged, and sold back to us when we were too young to know what it was for or why it could be powerful. we grew up feeling helpless and hopeless, trapped in a world where we had nothing meaningful to say and nothing useful to do because Doom was Nigh--the ozone layer, nuclear war, the Y2K bug, politicians that hated us sending us off to wars for blatant lies. Boomers got to have their Swinging 60s--we grew up under the specter of AIDS. we were isolated from each other, so we never realized that we weren't alone. and when we were finally able to get our own voice out into the popular culture, we spoke obliquely of isolation, depression, inward-turned knives.

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and when we did manage to rebel, it was seen as the usual childish rebellion against our parents. kids these days! it's a phase, we'll grow out of it and grow up to be just like the people who raised us.

but the kids these days... they have something magical: they have a voice, and the voice gives them power, and *they know it*.

their voices let them speak to each other about their world and the problems they see. it lets them look for solutions that aren't reliant on their parents or grandparents, not even for advice, not even for opinions. and make no mistake, they've noticed the *decade* of fucking "Millennials Ruined [X]" thinkpieces written by annoyed Boomers, the endless, relentless victim-blaming of slapping down the Kids These Days for the crappy situations they have to deal with and that they had nothing to do with creating.

this is Boomers reaping what they've sown. because this is Millenials saying "OK, Boomer... you've said your piece. we're aware of your opinion, we've heard your advice. now we're going to do *our own thing*. and you can keep talking all you want, but we're *doing* something. so why don't you have a nice big cup of sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up for a god damn change."

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

it hurts because it's speaking truth to power. it hurts because Boomers have built a culture that looks to them as the wise ones, the gatekeepers, the elders with power, and the Kids These Days aren't playing the game right. it's not disrespectful or confrontational--it's a swerve, a dodge, taking a pass on the whole packaged cycle of obedience and rebellion.

and that's why it doesn't hurt their parents, us GenXers. I have to admit, if somebody said "OK Gloomer" (heeee) to me I'd have to shake my head, laugh a little, and say "yeah, you got me." we're used to being disregarded and silenced. we love you, our kids... but we know better than to try and take away your voice. even if we wanted to, we know we can't. we can give advice and support, and you can take it or leave it as you will. but you're the ones who are leading the charge to change the world right now. drive us to a brighter, better future, or drive us off a cliff... either way, we're proud of you.

OK, Millenials and Zoomers. you've got this. 💚

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon heh, we're increasingly seeing the reaction to "ok Boomer" as being so troubling because it's a reminder of the mortality/ephemerality of their power and authority.

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@violet also true!

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon so good, thank-you.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon This was glorious and true. An excellent summation of the catchphrase, thanks.

I can attest that Boomers are often very scared of being old. Mortality, sure. But they were a generation which valourized youth as a power totem, assumed they would always possess it, felt neoliberalism ordained it. I don’t see Millennials arrogantly assured of their judgment the way it was confirmed for Boomers. Desperation breeds trepidation.

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@troodon I agree except if we're pointed to a cliff, I would very much like to work together to change that thanks

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon “okay GenXer.”
“Uh, *who*?”

Naw seriously, if we’re not being forgotten we’re dismissed as Millenials and, y’know, there are worse people to get confused with than our younger siblings/the kids we used to babysit.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@Leucrotta @troodon According to my Netflix recommendations, I watch shows like I'm babysitting kids anyhow.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon Yeah man. And if someone criticizes us X, well, we've heard it all our lives, take a number, get in line.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon generations aren't real. People are born pretty much continuously. That said, Boomers probably the most distinguishable..

But even then, we shouldn't assume too much just because they fall into an age category..

I think this is struggle against the established and their media power, and thinkpieces/tanks.

Boomers being -apparently- more easily persuaded into this stuff is a thing to attempt to overcome. (insofar worth it)

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@jasper the "postwar baby boom" is a real thing that can be pointed to. and that bump in population caused a rippling-out of subsequent bumps, based solely on how many people were born around X year starting to have kids in Y decade, but it evens out fast, yes. but, well... somebody's been writing all those "Millennials Killed Breakfast" thinkpieces, and I'm pretty sure most of them fall into a similar age range. and as far as persuading them out of it... it might be possible, but it's hard enough to make contact with people in the conservative bubble, and when those people are grandparents who are convinced they've seen it all and know everything worth knowing... *shrugs*

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@troodon This is utterly spot-on. 🤝🙌👏👏👏

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@troodon

I truly feel for Gen X. They were defeated before they even got started.

The rampant consumerism of boomers, and their might makes right mentality depressed X. The GI generation taught X to suffer silently. Which is what X rebelled was able to rebel against, the being silent.

The youth movements of Gen X reflect this. Punk and Grunge, and the alternative comedy movement was cynical, sarcastic, ultimately stemming from a sense of helplessness.

Millennials are rejecting the consumerism, and acquiring the not being silent of X.

Thank you Gen X.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@Agrippa seriously, I'm tearing up a little bit at this. yes, you got it, spot on. thank you for carrying the flame. :)

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re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@KitsuneAlicia yes, all this, thank you! I'm so sorry you went through that--fistbump of X-adjacent solidarity, and optimism for the kids building a better world while we watch. :)

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@troodon Thank you for writing this. 💜

I don’t know if you follow her, but Xeni has also been writing a lot about this on birdhellsite lately, and it’s been balm for the soul.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon thank you for writing this. I feel like I've read what so many gen X'ers I know have wanted to say for way too long.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon nicely summarises how I feel. Thanks.

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@troodon Thank you for this. Needed a vote of confidence this weekend, and you delivered. <3

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon thanks for this thread! I couldn't read all the replies, but sometimes I think: Boomers are also the generation who took to the streets in 1968 and some of them still think that they are the only true rebels and there's no real social movement that came after them.

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@troodon I'm also genX and I was raised in an atmosphere of "nobody is doing anything revolutionary any more". just as you said! I had the feeling I was born too late to join a movement that demanded social change, and if we did a little something, our parents' generation would often arrogantly tell us how it's done right. how to protest. how to block.

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@troodon I realise I’m like a week late to this, but, in my defence, I was in hospital having smashed my patella.

Massive hugs to you, for all of this. i agree with almost every word.

One thing I’d add is that, time and time and time again, we Xers had the entire shit pulled out from under us by the latest nonsense the boomers were pulling. After which, obviously, they blamed us for not being smarter/more cynical/richer.

It makes me laugh, it really does, when I see some of the voices on fedi I associate with Boomers springing up to claim that these posts, and the Ok Boomer in general, is comparable to the nazi-meme scum.

The Boomers spent their entire existence taking, they took from their parents, they took from each other, they took everything from us. They built castles in the sky, and they can’t understand why we won’t look on them with “respect” and civility.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@dgold yes yes yes. all this. thank you! *hughughug*

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@troodon Thank you

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@QueenMollyBones aw, thank *you*! :)

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon Well, damn. Well said.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon Excellently put.

The kids are more than alright.

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@erosdiscordia completely aside from everything to say I recognize your userpic and I just posted about that video yesterday! XD SAIL

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon seriously, well said. Thanks for sharing.

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@wolf480pl I have no idea, to be honest. aside from either a knee-jerk reaction to "insult bad, I feel bad" (which, truly, is not a dis; I have dealt with a severe depressive disorder most of my life and I have been in this boat more than once myself), or... like, some people have parents/grandparents who really *did* put in the work at the time, who still fight the good fight, who never gave in to The Man, and I've heard some expressions of unhappiness about the "OK, boomer" dismissal of those people, throwing out the baby with the bathwater. and that's a legitimate point! but... also one that I don't know how to address. :]

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon As a millennial, I am loving that the generation that made my generation ashamed to identify in the correct cohort feels "attacked." Maybe we can give boomers a participation trophy!

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon ok genXer

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon
I'm anti "OK Boomer" because I'm anti agism.

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@troodon Yes. The soundtrack of our angst was punk, hardcore, early rap, metal, industrial. And later on, grunge.

Despite all of that, I can think of only one song (and it was prog rock!) that laid the blame for the sorry state of our world on the Boomers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJo71hqXB_w

"Goodness gracious, we came in at the end
No sex that isn't dangerous, no money left to spend.
We're the cleanup crew for parties, we were too young to attend."

"The baby boomers had it all and they wasted everything!
Now recess is almost over, and they won't get off the swing."

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon From a Xennial perspective, the best part about it is, Boomer parents taught us how to be dismissive.

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@BalooUriza I know right? XD

re: some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon WE LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!

some thoughts about "OK Boomer" from a GenX perspective 

@troodon

So much stuff to chew on in your post, and the thread below it. Thank you for sharing.

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