"People think trains are old-fashioned. So, they go to great lengths to figure out systems that do everything that trains do, but they're not trains."
@starkatt "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
@Felthry Do you know about how the automotive industry systematically undermined public transit in the middle half of the 20th century? Because, that was a thing.
@starkatt heard about it, but don't know the details
@starkatt Admittely I'm really not a train nerd.
Admittedly I also really, really, REALLY want to fucking see this shit take back over.
Because every fucking commute, and ESPECIALLY with the advent of gig driving, I can't help but feel like our current infrastructure resembles an 80-odd anti-vegeterian's arteries more than anything. -_-
@starkatt Also, I want to point out something novel I've come across recently.
Regular-ass trains? Steel wheels on steel rail? They make for DAMN efficient renewable batteries because potential energy's a lot easier and cleaner to store than chemical (or even thermal if you count things like halite batteries)
@starkatt Although the TGV people cheated by using bigger wheels and juicing up the power in system during the trial.
But day to day Train Service at 300-350 km/h is quite ubiquitous over here in Europe.
@starkatt while impressive the 🇨🇳 train experience is very much like flying with Security, Stewardess and all such distractions.
In Europe it is just like taking a tram. Basically hop-on, hop-off.
@starkatt example for 🇪🇺 Trainservice (I was curious myself, so I checked): Cologne inner City Station next to the Cathedral to Frankfurt Airport: 181 km / 56 min by train. 2h by car.
From my house to Frankfurt Airport: 5 min walk to the team, 28 min to the Trainstation, 56 min to Frankfurt Airport.
By Plane: about 35 min to Cologne Airport, about 45 min check-in, about 30 min ✈️, about 20 min to get of the plane
@sasha fuck yeah, regular ass trains.
@starkatt gosh, I love and adore you good fox! ❤️
@starkatt When you're up into the hundreds of miles per hour, almost all of your energy is just going to push air. So putting the train inside of a tube and sucking the air out starts to become interesting.
Another innovation is autonomous cars which are capable of driving on train tracks -> much of the benefit of rail without the part about waiting for the train to come
@cjd :points at the quote at the top of the thread:
I definitely see the value from an energy perspective, I live in France where everyone uses trains and busses for transport (I don't even own a car) so I also have a pretty good handle on the inconvenience too.
Fuel here is heavily taxed, 1.40€/L (5.30€/gallon) to discourage use of cars, but people still do. Gilet jaune protests started over fuel tax.
So my point is trains are awesome, communal transport, awesome, but sensitivity to peoples' needs is also important.
My personal favorite idea is a "pod" system where you sit inside of the pod and the pod gets transferred by robotic arms from one transport system to another (autonamous car, train, boat, hyperloop) so we can finally have a rail-based transport system which is able to support all use cases.
(If an ambulence cannot use it to rush someone to the hospital then it doesn't support all use cases)
@starkatt heh. I heard this in his voice.
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