I'm distrohopping again. Any suggestions?
Plz boost, if you would. UwU
@slightlyflightyone i really like void
@00dani I'll definitely consider it. 😀😀
@slightlyflightyone RHEL 8 is pretty cool!!
@Siphonay I have a license, so I very well may.
Tbh, the main reason I'm considering it is literally because I can. Cx
@slightlyflightyone I found out they gave a free license if you work in IT so I grabbed one, I use it in a VM at work for now, I’m really happy with it and I may transfer the license to my laptop I have at home
@Siphonay They gave me a free license just for taking a 200-level CS course, so they're p flexible on what constitutes a "developer". 🙂
@slightlyflightyone Fedora serves me very, very well but I want to try Guix one day
@charlag I dunno why I don't like the feel of Fedora, but I don't really mind CentOS or RHEL, so I'm guessing it just puts me in a weird mindset to use.
@slightlyflightyone it's basically beta version of RHEL with vanilla GNOME (in default spin) but I don't blame you
@charlag I hate using GNOME. I'm p sure that's related, but I still don't like it much with the KDE or Xfce spins.
I really think I just like the feel of the more stable release cycle on that platform, or else I like it more because it gets me in a more "professional work" headspace with RHEL installed.
@marble you're wrong, but I still love you
@slightlyflightyone Manjaro is the best thing that happened to Arch.
Also I want to try FreeBSD in the future.
@marble I just dislike Arch. Cx
It's basically worse Gentoo. Every time I use it, all I can think is how much I would rather be using Gentoo. Cx
But I also have had far more stability issues with Arch. I've never had a package manager-based upgrade render a previously-stable Gentoo install unbootable and need to go in with a boot disk to fix it manually. I have dealt with that multiple times in Arch.
Mostly, tho, building my own packages gives me a lot of control over my system I feel like I'm missing with Arch.
@slightlyflightyone even with Arch you can use PKGBUILDs to compile all your packages if that's what you're into.
For me USE flags are the best things in gentoo, and I miss that but compiling everything takes a lot of time and energy, so I switched to Arch sometime in 2014 (and that's the install I'm still using, never bricked itself)
@uint8_t well, sounds like you have had an entirely different experience with Arch than me. Probably because we don't use the exact same hardware the exact same way for the exact same things. 😊
Also, yeah, my USE flags are basically a necessary aspect of life. 😭😭😭😭
@slightlyflightyone my setup is a boring X220 with no added cursedness, so that is very helpful
@uint8_t I tend to run "exciting" file systems and that caused lot of problems with Arch whenever I ran pacman iirc.
Between that (I think it was ZFS at the time), mdadm, and dm-crypt, every kernel upgrade was a huge pain and basically always lead to me needing to get out a boot disk to repair the initramfs.
After a few times of this, I just installed Gentoo instead of repairing Arch.
@aearil we have like 6 arch installs in active use and hardly any problems with them
(other than sometimes being annoyed by the frequent updates and the need to reboot for the new kernel modules; that's an awful behavior when you forgot that you updated and wonder, why newly attached $hardware Does Not Work At All. then you peek into dmesg and slap your forehead, promising once more to reboot after every kernel update)
@aearil @uint8_t #debian has needrestart and needrestart-session for that.
@uint8_t I have it installed on nearly all the systems I control.
@aearil there is a shortcut:
by doing the right combo in EFISTUB you can skip the GRUB level altogether
@slightlyflightyone why do you want to change?
@txt_file I change all the time. Usually because I'm bored of what I got and I like the install process and configuration and stuffs. 😊
@slightlyflightyone i just switched to the x86_64/musl branch of void linux; it needs more setup than ubuntu, but it's rapidly winning me over
not least because i've not yet had it grind to a complete halt - or even appreciably slow down! -when using firefox (on this 4GB machine with no swap), unlike debian / ubuntu / anything else glibc-based, which would do so at least once a day
@thamesynne Gentoo is my usual distro. Not Ubuntu.
@slightlyflightyone ah, i don't know how much setup or otherwise gentoo requires relative to void
also i should have been clearer that i was just using ubuntu as a reference point, rather than assuming anything about what you were using or where you wanted to go. sorry.
@thamesynne Gentoo requires more manual set up. I think that's true of anything short of LFS.
@thamesynne Gentoo's kinda like Arch in that you use the partitioning tools yourself and bootstrap a system using a package manager.
You just compile the kernel from source and stuff too, so it's a little more involved.
@slightlyflightyone ah, now i remember! i've heard about gentoo, but always looked at the requirement to compile stuff oneself, looked at the hardware i had available, and went "...you know what? slackware's fine" (which shows how long ago it was)
also, i haven't compiled my own kernel since the 2.4 series. that got old fast, i have to admit
anyway... so it's safe to say that void linux requires much less setting up (and patience) than that!
@thamesynne Slackware was my first distro for basically that same reason. I get it. Cx
@thamesynne I appreciate that context. I just wasn't sure if you were assuming I had very little experience with different distros. 😊
@slightlyflightyone Since it hasn't been mentioned (at least not what I can see from over here) I'll say it: Alpine is nice.
@alva I think it's reasonably important someone mentions Alpine. Cx
@slightlyflightyone nixos yo ?
@cyplo NixOS sounds p interesting too. c:
@slightlyflightyone it is Good Stuff [tm]. I basically was distro hopping quite a lot but stopped at NixOS - can be sunk cost fallacy as well, but hey ;)
The thing I liked the most is that if you change something and now things don't work you can literally boot into the older version of the whole system...!!! Other stuff is good as well :) Let me know if you'd have any questions :)
@SamanthaCayne I feel like I have used Plan 9 before, but never for, like, actual work. Just trying it out. x:
Is that the kinda OS I actually could do the normal AV work I do in Linux? 🤔
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