climate change, disposable people 

"Remember, this is happening at 1°C. Two degrees will be a death sentence for much of the global South. The only reason that people have come to accept 2°C as a reasonable target is because climate negotiators from the United States and other powerful countries have pushed for it, over the loud objections of their colleagues from the South – and particularly from Africa."

climate change, disposable people 

" When the 2°C target was announced at the Copenhagen summit in 2009, Lumumba Di-Aping, the Sudanese chief negotiator for the G77, said: ‘We have been asked to sign a suicide pact.’ ‘It is unfortunate,’ he went on, ‘that after 500 years-plus of interaction with the West we are still considered “disposables”. "

on the Paris Agreement and IPCC scenarios being based largely on BECCS

"Over and over again, the empirical evidence shows that it is possible to achieve high levels of human development without high levels of GDP. According to data from the UN, it is possible for nations to reach the very highest category on the life expectancy index with as little as $8,000 per capita, and very high levels on the education index with as little as $9,000 per capita."

@sifr possible, but not necessarily desirable. It's possible to continue having high GDP/capita without high carbon emissions.

@sifr I recommend "Austerity Ecology & the Collapse-Porn Addicts: A Defence Of Growth, Progress, Industry And Stuff"; well researched debunking of common Degrowther talking points.


@sifr so you're suggesting I read this book but you won't take similar suggestions? I'm certainly willing to give it a shot.

@digifox I have read enough to substantiate my opinion enough at this point, read it or not, it's up to you, I don't wanna hear any more general pro-growth argument personally

@sifr well, thank you for your intellectual honesty and directness.

@digifox you're welcome, I am a tired and pissed person and sometimes I have to just say no

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