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it's so nice that matrix really is the thing I've been looking for in terms of chat :

  • it's IRC-like
  • it's fairly secure by modern standards (unlike IRC)
  • it's self-hostable but can federate
  • it has support for rich media and video/audio calls

it's just a shame I personally know so few people who actually use it

after FreeNode functionally collapsed I haven't had the itch to go back to a simpler chat like what IRC was. I'm also too used to rich media / code support to handle raw IRC like I used to, so matrix is a really good compromise

@_sharpLimefox @_sharpLimefox I use it for irc anyway (liberal.chat) via the bridge they set up. Admittedly there's only one channel I frequent.

@_sharpLimefox If I hadn't gotten so deeply invested (in terms of having nearly a decade of conversation history) into Quassel IRC, I might be using Matrix. It's not yet at the low-maintenance stage for the admins of a small fuzzy IRC network I'm on (they have very little time), but for individuals it seems great.

@digitalfox

Quassel IRC

oof, that name brings back memories of lonely evenings tweaking theme configurations

@_sharpLimefox Ah, I didn't know you used to use Quassel IRC!

Lately, the project lead hasn't had time to review changes, unfortunately, but there's still slight development going on. Quasseldroid is undergoing a rewrite to make use of the most recent Android development practices, too.

@digitalfox I used HexChat at first, then weechat, then Quassel (I needed something to stay online while I wasn't there, since having backlogs of what people said while I wasn't there was very important)
It's surprising to me that it's still under development, even if only occasional. QuasselDroid used to be the biggest pain tho

re: talk on Matrix/Quassel IRC/etc 

@_sharpLimefox Makes sense! Similar reasoning here, though I migrated from Pidgin to Quassel, which was a substantial difference.

[The following is optional rambling - if you're not interested, feel free to ignore it.]

Quasseldroid has changed a lot - two rewrites as justJanne (the current maintainer) expanded her experience with Android development and as Google kept changing their recommendations for developers. Quassel 0.13+ with core-side highlights made a big impact as you get all missed notifications when QD connects regardless of how long you were disconnected.

If you're curious, the current version is at quasseldroid.info/ (not the upcoming redesign).

(Aside, justJanne lowercased the "…Droid" due to projects like DavDroid getting targeted by Lucasfilm: twitter.com/davx5app/status/10 )

My own stance is that Modern XMPP ( docs.modernxmpp.org/ ) or Matrix is likely better for folks just getting started with decentralized chat, but IRCCloud, Quassel, and The Lounge are probably the best IRC-first experiences today building atop IRCv3 ( ircv3.net/ ).

@_sharpLimefox I've been using Matrix and hosting a server for a few years and it's quite resource hungry and slow. They're writing a new server in Go but I don't think they can get around the fact that each server uses lots of storage space. I guess that's busyness as usual for people hosting fediverse servers though, but I kinda dislike that propension of decentralized software to replicate everything forever inefficiently b/c resources seem cheap.

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