is there a reason instances couldn't just have a federation allowlist, but with something akin to follow requests supported as well

y'know, so new instances can ping admins and be like "hey can we federate with you please" :blobcatthinking:

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also you could do a web of trust/vouch system pretty easily? if i haven't seen this new instance before, but this other instance i trust has already approved them, then i can probably auto-approve them too. that kind of thing

i mean, if actually handling federation requests manually at the instance level is too much work anyway. which i suspect it isn't, since there aren't that many new instances popping up over time? :blobcatthinking:

@00dani i really oughta try to make the fedi software i keep saying im gonna make, because this exact thing is what i had planned for being the default type of federation

with customizable depth of trust too! (i.e. auto-approve instances who fed with instances on your list, or one step lower, with instances that they federate with or even more.etc)

@00dani first gen monsterpit had something kinda like that where it would silence new instances until folks interacted with them enough

iwrc it was buggy and hard to maintain though, but it's a good idea

@00dani The Matrix folk are doing something vaguely related in the distributed-reputation moderation system they're building for self-service moderation in e2ee rooms? It might be interesting to look into what, exactly, they've actually tried there?

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